I really do think that the wifi in my N800 is broken! It connects to any and all routers I point it to but it just doesn't get any webpages or anything loaded..
what do 'ifconfig', 'ip route list' and various pings show? And could it be a DNS error? I know I had my router's DNS configured wrong, and has similar symptoms.
ok "netstat -r" should be the same as ip route list. What you hope to see is a default route with the IP of the AP as the gateway.
So are you pinging by IP address, or by name? I'd try to ping www.google.com, then look up the IP of www.google.com and ping it by IP, too. If there's no difference, then I'm pretty much out of ideas. Which sucks, because trying to help you out is much more interesting than anything I have to do at work.
Oh, I don't remember what command line dns clients exist on the tablets, but try doing the lookup there, too. host and dig are the most likely "host google.com" or "dig google.com"
That ap is working, I can use it with any computer and the router I have. But my N800 has always had problems with wifi and I believe it doesn't receive anything anymore..
Didn't you say pinging the AP works? that means it's transmitting/receiving. Probably some sort of firewall/MAC filtering on the AP causing the problems.
@pkahle N800 (and 770 if it comes to that) doesn't have "normal" /usr/bin set, instead it has busybox package to economize on space consumed by binaries... So one doesn't necessarily have to rely on presence of that or this binary in /usr/bin ...
@silpol Yeah, I know. I just forgot what IS there. My 770's battery is going, and I don't have a wifi net set up anyway, so I haven't used it in a while.
@r200 sorry for lecture, but... Lesson 1 - remember for time-being that IP addresses are attributed to network interfaces, NOT to hosts. Lesson 2 - if you were able to ping your packets till interface of router, it means that your box is not a problem anymore, it is router's configuration or, further, your ISP's DSL line
@r200 the cause of your problem might that DNS doesn't work as should (no resolving from www.google.com to IP address), and that could be for number of reasons... what comes to mind - DHCP troubles, problem of DNS proxying at router, DNS server failure at operator premises, /long list skipped for clarity/
@r200 you know how to bother them and ask to connect to network engineer, not some nice lady in customer services with no brain in head, but nice voice to calm you
@silpol the tests I'm running now on my isp is because I've always had trouble with wifi, the n800 always has trouble with going online while any other computer could use the same wifi network. I'm now experimenting with my isp because I know it works.
@r200 well, if you are so sure that your ISP is non-problematic... what is MAC address of your WiFi AP? just to inform our wifi guys that particular AP is problematic ;)
@silpol all ap's and routers are problematic for me! :) I've set up a bunch of wifi networks for friends and i can connect to them but cant get online, but their computers do.
Yeah, I'll just keep the damn thing connected to my n73 and let it waste both batteries as I've done so far.. Sucks though, I'd love to have faster speeds sometimes.
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It's not really that funny! :)
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
I suck and fail....
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
"Root shell enabled" and after that "permission denied. (are you root?)" Bleh! Heelp..
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
So, I've not used a N800, but the 770, all you needed was to install the becomeroot package. See here Does that not work?
2 years, 1 month ago by pkahle
Only Silpol can help you :))
2 years, 1 month ago by Nokian
I installed a godmode package that should do it but I guess I don't know how to use it. :) checking that link now
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
Bah! "sudo gainroot" was all I needed! It works! :) changing mac address now and tests wifi
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
I really do think that the wifi in my N800 is broken! It connects to any and all routers I point it to but it just doesn't get any webpages or anything loaded..
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
what do 'ifconfig', 'ip route list' and various pings show? And could it be a DNS error? I know I had my router's DNS configured wrong, and has similar symptoms.
2 years, 1 month ago by pkahle
I don't have a 'ip route list' command, ifconfig tells me something. Ping only reaches the isp's ap, nothing else.
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
ok "netstat -r" should be the same as ip route list. What you hope to see is a default route with the IP of the AP as the gateway.
So are you pinging by IP address, or by name? I'd try to ping www.google.com, then look up the IP of www.google.com and ping it by IP, too. If there's no difference, then I'm pretty much out of ideas. Which sucks, because trying to help you out is much more interesting than anything I have to do at work.
Oh, I don't remember what command line dns clients exist on the tablets, but try doing the lookup there, too. host and dig are the most likely "host google.com" or "dig google.com"
2 years, 1 month ago by pkahle
Netstat shows me the AP ip but ping to google doesn't go anywhere and I don't have a ip for google either obviously.. ;)
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
No host and dig commands either..
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
Google is google.com 1 A 72.14.207.99 300s google.com 1 A 64.233.187.99 300s google.com 1 A 64.233.167.99 300s
Try any/all of those.
2 years, 1 month ago by pkahle
Pinging ip's doesn't do anything, "100% packet loss"
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
ah well, I'm out of ideas. Sorry.
2 years, 1 month ago by pkahle
That ap is working, I can use it with any computer and the router I have. But my N800 has always had problems with wifi and I believe it doesn't receive anything anymore..
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
@r200 hi, what is your problem in first place?
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
Using wifi? :)
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
Didn't you say pinging the AP works? that means it's transmitting/receiving. Probably some sort of firewall/MAC filtering on the AP causing the problems.
2 years, 1 month ago by pkahle
@pkahle N800 (and 770 if it comes to that) doesn't have "normal" /usr/bin set, instead it has busybox package to economize on space consumed by binaries... So one doesn't necessarily have to rely on presence of that or this binary in /usr/bin ...
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
Oh yeah, I could ping the ap.. And my isp has mac filtering that's why I had to grab that mac addy from my router to the n800.
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
@silpol Yeah, I know. I just forgot what IS there. My 770's battery is going, and I don't have a wifi net set up anyway, so I haven't used it in a while.
2 years, 1 month ago by pkahle
@r200 sorry for lecture, but... Lesson 1 - remember for time-being that IP addresses are attributed to network interfaces, NOT to hosts. Lesson 2 - if you were able to ping your packets till interface of router, it means that your box is not a problem anymore, it is router's configuration or, further, your ISP's DSL line
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
I think my isp just blocked me now, cant ping the ap anymore and my router doesn't seem to connect to it either. :)
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
@r200 the cause of your problem might that DNS doesn't work as should (no resolving from www.google.com to IP address), and that could be for number of reasons... what comes to mind - DHCP troubles, problem of DNS proxying at router, DNS server failure at operator premises, /long list skipped for clarity/
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
@r200 you know how to bother them and ask to connect to network engineer, not some nice lady in customer services with no brain in head, but nice voice to calm you
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
@r200 is router in your house? what is ISP company name?
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
@silpol the tests I'm running now on my isp is because I've always had trouble with wifi, the n800 always has trouble with going online while any other computer could use the same wifi network. I'm now experimenting with my isp because I know it works.
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
@r200 well, if you are so sure that your ISP is non-problematic... what is MAC address of your WiFi AP? just to inform our wifi guys that particular AP is problematic ;)
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
@silpol all ap's and routers are problematic for me! :) I've set up a bunch of wifi networks for friends and i can connect to them but cant get online, but their computers do.
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
@r200 hmmm... when you had updated last time firmware? can you go to Control Panel and check what version of firmware you have inside?
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
Latest I know of. 4.2007.26-8
2 years, 1 month ago by R200
@r200 hmmm, that's strange... I have same on my box, no significant probs with WiFi, and various AP type were used... this is kinda weird
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
Yeah, I'll just keep the damn thing connected to my n73 and let it waste both batteries as I've done so far.. Sucks though, I'd love to have faster speeds sometimes.
2 years, 1 month ago by R200